Comments on: Two very different routes to success http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/ The original motor racing magazine Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:55:08 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: rob widdows http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42805 rob widdows Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:23:33 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42805 Do not be envious, It is not all plain sailing. But, yes, it is good to be reminded of a true hero. I would prefer fellow bloggers to be interested, or in some way inspired, rather than to feel envy. Only because work is work and actually I am now quite tired.....!! But, yes, it is a privileged way to earn a living and it is warming to know that men like Nuvolari are still revered alongside the likes of our modern superstars. Talking of which Button is mad to go to McLaren. OK, I know it will be profitable, but Lewis is exceptionally fast and the team has taken him into its bosom. We will see. Maybe I will be proved wrong but I still think it will be Hamilton who is faster and who will fight for the title. Must sign off. New blog on its way once I'm home. Apart from Nuvolari it has been invigorating to be in Italy. Such style, such quality of life. But you still get tired! They do love cars here, they do love the passion of sport, and that is good. As you say. Forza! Down the road from here in Maranello they will be burning the midnight oil to provide Signor Alonso with a winning car. RW Do not be envious, It is not all plain sailing. But, yes, it is good to be reminded of a true hero. I would prefer fellow bloggers to be interested, or in some way inspired, rather than to feel envy. Only because work is work and actually I am now quite tired…..!! But, yes, it is a privileged way to earn a living and it is warming to know that men like Nuvolari are still revered alongside the likes of our modern superstars.
Talking of which Button is mad to go to McLaren. OK, I know it will be profitable, but Lewis is exceptionally fast and the team has taken him into its bosom. We will see. Maybe I will be proved wrong but I still think it will be Hamilton who is faster and who will fight for the title.
Must sign off. New blog on its way once I’m home. Apart from Nuvolari it has been invigorating to be in Italy. Such style, such quality of life. But you still get tired!
They do love cars here, they do love the passion of sport, and that is good.
As you say. Forza! Down the road from here in Maranello they will be burning the midnight oil to provide Signor Alonso with a winning car.
RW

]]> By: Dave Cubbedge http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42799 Dave Cubbedge Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:44:44 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42799 I am eternally envious of you! Forza Nivola! I am eternally envious of you! Forza Nivola!

]]> By: rob widdows http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42768 rob widdows Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:14:46 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42768 I write to you from Mantova. Walking through the streets tonight it is dark and mysterious, this medieval town surrounded by lakes. Autumn hangs heavy in the air, a melancholy man plays accordion and sings mournful songs in the shadow of the great cathedral. I am walking in the footsteps of Tazio Nuvolari, following his ghost, in my quest to tell the story of a motor racing legend. In a future edition of the magazine I will report in full on this journey to learn something of the man who is a God in this part of the world, a hero the world over. Meanwhile I follow our latest debate with interest. We have, it seems, touched upon another subject that has given rise to some interesting stories and opinions. It is good to see that we, as enthusiasts, are getting together to swap tales of talent and graft. When I return I will try to open a new debate, or perhaps to reflect upon the vast history of the sport. Meanwhile, the world of Mercedes buying out Mr Brawn, and Fernando Alonso appearing before his fans in Valencia dressed already in Ferrari red, seems a world away. Good evening from northern Italy, and thank you for all your contributions. RW I write to you from Mantova. Walking through the streets tonight it is dark and mysterious, this medieval town surrounded by lakes. Autumn hangs heavy in the air, a melancholy man plays accordion and sings mournful songs in the shadow of the great cathedral. I am walking in the footsteps of Tazio Nuvolari, following his ghost, in my quest to tell the story of a motor racing legend.
In a future edition of the magazine I will report in full on this journey to learn something of the man who is a God in this part of the world, a hero the world over.
Meanwhile I follow our latest debate with interest. We have, it seems, touched upon another subject that has given rise to some interesting stories and opinions. It is good to see that we, as enthusiasts, are getting together to swap tales of talent and graft.
When I return I will try to open a new debate, or perhaps to reflect upon the vast history of the sport.
Meanwhile, the world of Mercedes buying out Mr Brawn, and Fernando Alonso appearing before his fans in Valencia dressed already in Ferrari red, seems a world away.
Good evening from northern Italy, and thank you for all your contributions.
RW

]]> By: Dave Cubbedge http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42762 Dave Cubbedge Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:27:08 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42762 I think Michael pays attention to Danica because she is the teams' meal ticket and she wants to go to NASCAR, so he needs her to succeed where she is so she might stand a better chance of staying put, which is where I would like her to be. Does that make any sense at all? Marco needs to get older and wiser.....maybe he should be running USAC Sprints and Midgets like his grandpaw did to learn racecraft. I think Michael pays attention to Danica because she is the teams’ meal ticket and she wants to go to NASCAR, so he needs her to succeed where she is so she might stand a better chance of staying put, which is where I would like her to be. Does that make any sense at all?

Marco needs to get older and wiser…..maybe he should be running USAC Sprints and Midgets like his grandpaw did to learn racecraft.

]]> By: Chris H http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42760 Chris H Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:52:54 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42760 One has to feel sorry for Mario: Marco has not and will not deliver as Michael did so he either has less talent or does not work at it as hard as is necessary because he certainly has not lacked resources. I fear his second place at the "500" will be the highlight of his career. Nowadays Michael works with Danica Patrick so perhaps she is a driver with talent and who is prepared to work very hard to achieve - she certainly way outperforms Marco. One has to agree with an earlier comment that the scenery in the pits at an Indy Car race is great - at the "500" it is often more interesting than the racing! One has to feel sorry for Mario: Marco has not and will not deliver as Michael did so he either has less talent or does not work at it as hard as is necessary because he certainly has not lacked resources. I fear his second place at the “500″ will be the highlight of his career. Nowadays Michael works with Danica Patrick so perhaps she is a driver with talent and who is prepared to work very hard to achieve – she certainly way outperforms Marco.
One has to agree with an earlier comment that the scenery in the pits at an Indy Car race is great – at the “500″ it is often more interesting than the racing!

]]> By: rob widows http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42757 rob widows Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:00:17 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42757 Good evening all from the town of Mantova in northern Italy where I have spent the day following the ghost of Tazio Nuvolari, walking the streets where he walked, visiting the houses where he lived and talking to those who live in awe of him to this day. Mantova is Nuvolari, in the heart of motor racing country on Lombardy's flat plains in the shadow of the mountains. He was born in nearby Castel D'Ario just five kilometres from the village where Alberto Ascari came into the world. There must be something in the air. I must not give too much away as I will be writing at length in the magazine about the legend that is Tazio, the racing driver who remains a demi-God in this part of the world. But it has been a fascinating and moving experience, the autumn mist over the lakes adding to the mysteries of the man who lived the dream of every Italian boy but who came to know such tragedy in his family. I am very pleased to see that the latest blog has created another interesting exchange of views and experiences. We all share a passion for our sport and it's great to see that so many of you appreciate the lessons of history. Today in Mantova the newspapers carried the stories of Mercedes taking over the Brawn team. The trusted and revered bible of sports news, the famous Gazzetta del Sport carried not only the Mercedes story but also the arrival ofAlonso and Massa in Valencia for the launch of their partnership at Ferrari in front of the Spanish fans. All this seemed so far away, and strangely unreal, as I became drawn into the life of Nuvolari. The exhibition at the Palazzo Te is an absolute must for any enthusiast. It is open until December 18. Get here if you can. Nuvolari's own photographs of his friends, family and career alone make this journey worthwhile, and a joy. RW Good evening all from the town of Mantova in northern Italy where I have spent the day following the ghost of Tazio Nuvolari, walking the streets where he walked, visiting the houses where he lived and talking to those who live in awe of him to this day.
Mantova is Nuvolari, in the heart of motor racing country on Lombardy’s flat plains in the shadow of the mountains. He was born in nearby Castel D’Ario just five kilometres from the village where Alberto Ascari came into the world. There must be something in the air.
I must not give too much away as I will be writing at length in the magazine about the legend that is Tazio, the racing driver who remains a demi-God in this part of the world. But it has been a fascinating and moving experience, the autumn mist over the lakes adding to the mysteries of the man who lived the dream of every Italian boy but who came to know such tragedy in his family.
I am very pleased to see that the latest blog has created another interesting exchange of views and experiences. We all share a passion for our sport and it’s great to see that so many of you appreciate the lessons of history.
Today in Mantova the newspapers carried the stories of Mercedes taking over the Brawn team. The trusted and revered bible of sports news, the famous Gazzetta del Sport carried not only the Mercedes story but also the arrival ofAlonso and Massa in Valencia for the launch of their partnership at Ferrari in front of the Spanish fans.
All this seemed so far away, and strangely unreal, as I became drawn into the life of Nuvolari. The exhibition at the Palazzo Te is an absolute must for any enthusiast. It is open until December 18. Get here if you can. Nuvolari’s own photographs of his friends, family and career alone make this journey worthwhile, and a joy.
RW

]]> By: David Hock http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42735 David Hock Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:14:18 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42735 Mario, thank you so much for referring to the BBC4 material. I had no idea it was out there. Rob, a listing of some of the historical resources on the web might make for a good article I would think. Not to try to list them all of course, but just some of the more juicy threads that one can then follow on their own, so to speak. Thanks ever for such a quality blog. Mario, thank you so much for referring to the BBC4 material. I had no idea it was out there. Rob, a listing of some of the historical resources on the web might make for a good article I would think. Not to try to list them all of course, but just some of the more juicy threads that one can then follow on their own, so to speak. Thanks ever for such a quality blog.

]]> By: Tony Geran http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42724 Tony Geran Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:34:56 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42724 To quote the great Ben Hogan " The more I practise, the luckier I get". In any sport or other human endeavour success does not come without hard work. Musicians, artists, golfers, cricketers all have to put the hard yards in. Sure you have to have talent but nothing comes without hard work. Look at Tiger Woods nobody sees the hours of practice he undertakes every day to stay at the top, the difference between the greats and others is the level of commitment the greats have to get to where they want to go. Senna's work in his kart to learn how to drive in the wet is an example of the drive those at the top have to succeed. It is interesting to note that Prost chose to drive at the Paul Ricard driving school because he thought he had a better chance to succeed there as he did not like driving in the rain. I guess it shows that the best recognise their weaknesses but put themselves in the right circumstances to overcome them. To quote the great Ben Hogan ” The more I practise, the luckier I get”. In any sport or other human endeavour success does not come without hard work. Musicians, artists, golfers, cricketers all have to put the hard yards in. Sure you have to have talent but nothing comes without hard work. Look at Tiger Woods nobody sees the hours of practice he undertakes every day to stay at the top, the difference between the greats and others is the level of commitment the greats have to get to where they want to go. Senna’s work in his kart to learn how to drive in the wet is an example of the drive those at the top have to succeed. It is interesting to note that Prost chose to drive at the Paul Ricard driving school because he thought he had a better chance to succeed there as he did not like driving in the rain. I guess it shows that the best recognise their weaknesses but put themselves in the right circumstances to overcome them.

]]> By: Dave Cubbedge http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42710 Dave Cubbedge Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:28:32 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42710 I can tell you first-hand that at Indy Mario is in Marco's pit. (Funny, I've got a photo of Mario at Indy a few years back in one of the AGR pits next to some girl - of course it was my wife who told me that that 'girl' was Ashley Judd.....) I just think he likes to take on a much lower profile, kinda like letting the grandkid do his own thing. There is no lack of interest on Mario's part - he still desperately has the desire to succeed, and especially for Marco as the line might end there. I can tell you first-hand that at Indy Mario is in Marco’s pit. (Funny, I’ve got a photo of Mario at Indy a few years back in one of the AGR pits next to some girl – of course it was my wife who told me that that ‘girl’ was Ashley Judd…..) I just think he likes to take on a much lower profile, kinda like letting the grandkid do his own thing. There is no lack of interest on Mario’s part – he still desperately has the desire to succeed, and especially for Marco as the line might end there.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/2009/11/12/two-very-different-routes-to-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42695 Kenny Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:35:55 +0000 http://www.motorsportmagazine.co.uk/?p=6622#comment-42695 Chuck- Sally, Betty, and Helen were there, manning the stop watches, making themselves useful and providing excellent scenery. Chuck- Sally, Betty, and Helen were there, manning the stop watches, making themselves useful and providing excellent scenery.

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